Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) has guidelines in politics is always to carry the values of the intrinsic independence and strengthen democratic national consensus, while explaining the Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia (HTI) model of state governance models shaped caliphate. Therefore, this study aimed to determine discourse state forms between NU and plantation in East Java. This research is a qualitative research approach Foucault's discourse analysis. The result showed that the concept of state in each group either NU or HTI has been produced as a manifestation of power is articulated through knowledge. The results of the knowledge base or foundation be in his power. In the state of discourse in the corridors to keep NU-Indonesia's pristine namely the Republic of Indonesia as a dominant discourse. In contrast to the HTI remained firm in the state unitary caliphate as Alternative Discourse in the form of state discourse.